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Post by BrandonHavis on Jan 4, 2009 23:21:21 GMT -5
i have used milk replacer for dogs, but the place i buy my feed gave me 4 bags of openned calf milk replacer. i have read online and the only one i have heard you cannot give to dogs is the ones with bovatec (lasalocid). the others say nothing about it being bad for dogs. it has an antibiotic in it (Terramycin i think) to combat scours. i have been told to give it to dogs to help put weight on them.
i happen to have the 4 bags but if it isnt something i need to use on my hounds i will not. but everyone says its ok as long as it dont have the bovatec in it.
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Post by BrandonHavis on Jan 4, 2009 23:26:07 GMT -5
i've been reading about it and it says tehe terramycin has "an extremely low toxicity" and doesnt state that its bad for horses and dogs. but the bovatec specifically says it is toxic for horses and dogs.
brandon
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Post by jcrosscatahoulas on Jan 5, 2009 14:04:21 GMT -5
I've never used the milk replacer with bovatec but have used it with the Terramycin and Euromycin. Your pigs would probably enjoy it.
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Post by BrandonHavis on Jan 5, 2009 18:29:22 GMT -5
ya i figured if i cant use it on the dogs i can give it to the pig, but everywhere i look it seems safe for dogs. they actually prescribe terramycin for dogs with eye infections so i guess its ok.
thanks for the info.
brandon
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Post by rodman on Jan 5, 2009 19:20:21 GMT -5
terramycin is a antibiotic.Should not be a problem IMO
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Post by jcrosscatahoulas on Jan 5, 2009 19:21:14 GMT -5
lemme get in the Merck manual on this one.
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Post by jcrosscatahoulas on Jan 5, 2009 19:25:48 GMT -5
Monensin, lasalocid, salinomycin, maduramicin, and narasin may cause myopathy. Horses are highly susceptible, and toxicity has also been reported in cattle, sheep, pigs, dogs, chickens, turkeys, and guinea fowl. Toxicity generally results from exposure to undiluted premixes or from mixing errors. Toxicosis may be potentiated by various antibiotics and sulfonamides incorporated into feeds in combination with ionophores. Affected horses and cattle may develop anorexia, cardiac failure with tachycardia, dyspnea, diarrhea, stiffness, muscular weakness, recumbency, and myoglobinuria. At necropsy, pale areas of myocardial necrosis and pulmonary congestion are usually prominent in horses and cattle. Pigs and sheep tend to have mainly skeletal muscle lesions that appear quite similar grossly and histologically to those of nutritional myopathy. Diagnosis requires history of exposure with development of characteristic clinical and pathologic alterations.
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Post by BrandonHavis on Jan 5, 2009 19:30:42 GMT -5
lol im not that smart.... i think that means im ok as long as its not in that list of chemicals at the beginning? and the bovatec is the brand name for lasalocid. SOOOO..... my terramycin is ok right? lol
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Post by jcrosscatahoulas on Jan 5, 2009 19:34:26 GMT -5
LOL I read it to say combining antibiotics with other drugs in the mixes and getting them "too hot" basically can be a problem if an animal is overdosed. It's probably NOT a problem fed in proportion to their weight.
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Post by BrandonHavis on Jan 5, 2009 19:38:23 GMT -5
thank you ma'am, i appreciate the time and info. lol sometimes all that jargon makes me get corn-fused
brandon
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Post by beaglewoman on Jan 24, 2009 20:52:18 GMT -5
I have used the calf enhancer. Worked well for me. would add to dry dog food while nursing. And would add it to pups first foods.
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