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ivomec
Apr 30, 2007 13:42:07 GMT -5
Post by triplek35 on Apr 30, 2007 13:42:07 GMT -5
Does anyone use ivomec to treat there dogs for heart worms, if so where's the best place/price to get it. The co-op where i was getting it has went up to 38.00 for a 50ml bottle. Thanks for any info.
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ivomec
Apr 30, 2007 13:52:29 GMT -5
Post by longshot on Apr 30, 2007 13:52:29 GMT -5
Check the dog health section.
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ivomec
Apr 30, 2007 14:05:51 GMT -5
Post by Bolo on Apr 30, 2007 14:05:51 GMT -5
I get mine from Jeffer's. Just go to their website and you can order it off of there or you can request a catalog. I buy the generic version and the last time I got some it was around $70 for 200 ml. I didn't need that much so I sold half to one of my buddies. I think they sell the 50 ml bottles for about $26, at least I think I saw that price in their latest catalog. These prices are for the generic brand but I've never had any problems with it. It is the same ingredients as Ivomec ivermectin.
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ivomec
Apr 30, 2007 21:56:10 GMT -5
Post by jcrosscatahoulas on Apr 30, 2007 21:56:10 GMT -5
To treat or prevent HW's?
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ivomec
May 1, 2007 6:49:46 GMT -5
Post by triplek35 on May 1, 2007 6:49:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the info bolo, to prevent hw's jcross.
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ivomec
May 1, 2007 7:01:46 GMT -5
Post by jcrosscatahoulas on May 1, 2007 7:01:46 GMT -5
I get the oral from a vet near me that is ULTRA fair priced....those aren't found everywhere.
For hw prevention 1/10th cc per 25 lbs will do the trick and 1 50 ml bottle will last a WHILE.
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ivomec
May 1, 2007 21:16:55 GMT -5
Post by Gunslinger on May 1, 2007 21:16:55 GMT -5
1/10th of a cc for 25 lbs. will not stop heart worms according to my vet...Last summer I had to put down one of the best hounds I ever had..He had heart worms.I was giving 3/10ths of a cc to a 60 lbs dog every 5 to 6 weeks..When I told the vet this..I was told I was wasting time and money by doing so.That it had to be gave every 30 days and at the right dose to do any good as a heart worm prevention.The vet told me 1/10th of a cc for every 10 lbs. would be the correct does and had to be given every 30 days..Less than that dose or any longer between does would not work..But I had been worming 3 or 4 10ths of a cc of ivomec for years,and doing every 5 or 6 weeks not every 30 days.And I only lost one dog to heart worms..But that one dog was one of the best hounds I ever had.If I had it to do over and knew what I know now..I would have gave him the right does at the right time...When it comes to a good dog why take a chance..It might cost a few more bucks a year but its money well spent.. This isn't my opinion it was what I was told by the vet..
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ivomec
May 1, 2007 22:39:55 GMT -5
Post by jcrosscatahoulas on May 1, 2007 22:39:55 GMT -5
ABSOLUTELY dd! The way ivermectin works for HW prevention is basically backwards from the way everything else works. The dose from today is good for 60 days ago's exposure.....that's why it's so important to give it every 30 days. When the larva reach a certain stage is when the ivermectin is effective....SO, if we let too much time lapse and the dogs were exposed.....you get heart worms. As for the 1/10 for 10 lbs.....using a 1% solution (the most common one found) that will actually de-worm the dog from most parasites, but is over-kill for HW prevention. It will certainly work...but that much isn't necessary. It takes 272mcg monthly for HW prevention on a 100 lb dog. (As prescribed by pre-portioned monthly HW preventatives) Here's a link for some dosage info if ya wanna read a little bit. heartgard.us.merial.com/downloads/HG-Product_Information.pdf
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ivomec
May 2, 2007 8:22:11 GMT -5
Post by longshot on May 2, 2007 8:22:11 GMT -5
I only see dosage for tablets and chewables, what about liquid?
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ivomec
May 2, 2007 10:16:40 GMT -5
Post by Bunnyseeker on May 2, 2007 10:16:40 GMT -5
According to a Question and Answer article by Dr. Silverio found here on this web site at www.espomagazine.com/vet/jan96.htm “The dosage used to prevent heartworm disease is only 3 - 6 micrograms per pound of body weight, given orally once a month. A much higher dose of Ivermectin (50 mcg/lb) is required to kill adult hookworms and whipworms, and an even higher (100 mcg/lb) is about 90% effective against the common roundworm of dogs…” (Not recommended for Collies). Also, “To achieve the dose of 100 mcg/lb, Ivomec should be given orally at 0.1 cc for every 10 pounds of body weight. This is equivalent to 1/4 cc for a 25 pound beagle and can be given once a month to prevent the diseases caused by the four parasites mentioned. All dogs should be tested for heartworm disease before the first dose.” Based on the above information of 100mcg/lb dosage needed…I came to these conclusions. Remember the Equimax (plunger of paste) that I purchased contains (ivermectin 1.87% / praziquantel 14.03%) 91 mcg ivermectin per lb. (200 mcg/kg) of body weight. Its net weight is 0.225 oz (6.42g) and treats 1320 lbs of horse flesh. This plunger contains 120,120mcg of Ivermectin (1320 lbs X 91mcg/lb.). Remember it contains 7cc…now then…120,120mcg divided by 7cc equals 17,160mcg/1cc of Ivermectin. Which would treat a dog of 172lbs. (120,120mcg divided by 100mcg equals 171.6lbs.). The following chart would be: 1cc = 172lbs. 9/10cc = 154lbs. 8/10cc = 137lbs. 7/10cc = 120lbs. 6/10cc = 103lbs. 5/10cc = 86lbs. 4/10cc = 69lbs. 3/10cc = 52lbs. 2/10cc = 34lbs. 1/10cc = 17lbs. Now then when using the Equimax…based on these to charts a 25lb. beagle who received a 5/10cc dose of Droncit (praziquantel) but, would also receive enough Ivermectin for 86lbs (or nearly 3 and half dogs). My Vet told me this high dosage of Ivermectin would not hurt my beagles. In fact, he assured me that there are no studies that he is aware of showing any correlation between Ivermectin use and kidney failures.
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May 7, 2007 22:08:02 GMT -5
Post by Gunslinger on May 7, 2007 22:08:02 GMT -5
Good info bunnyseeker,according to the chart you listed I was giving the right amount of ivermectin..I just wasn't giving it offten enough..I have offten wondered how he got to stage 3 heart worms in just 6 weeks time..Anyone got any input on this? I'm not a vet and have no idea how fast heart worms take hold.6 weeks before this dog was healthy.6 weeks latter I give a dose of ivermectin and it almost kills him and a week latter I have to put him down..I know the ivermectin killed the heart worms and most likely gave him a heart attack causeing him to go down hill very fast.but I wouldn't think in just 6 weeks he would go from no heart worms to stage 3 heart worms..
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ivomec
May 8, 2007 7:18:39 GMT -5
Post by jcrosscatahoulas on May 8, 2007 7:18:39 GMT -5
With the way Ivermectin works on HW prevention, the window of opportunity when given every 6 weeks in many areas wouldn't cause a problem, but you're in our area too and we have gazillions of 'em. The ivomec was getting SOME of them, but not all and allowed some to mature to adult worms without your being aware. This allowed them to cause a problem and 90% of the time, we're not aware of the problem until it's severe. Here's a link to the Merck Vet Manual that I use to calculate dosages for a lot of medication. If you have a question, there's normally an answer there. www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/servlet/CVMHighLight?file=htm/bc/tdig08.htm&word=heartwormIvermectin for HW prevention is given at .006 mg per kg, but using it as a general de-worming medication is a different dosage. DD, I know well the losing a great dog because I wasn't aware what I was doing wasn't correct. I had no idea that Ivomec and Strongid wouldn't kill whip worms, at 4 years old I lost a jam up cow/hog dog because of it...he may not have lived to be an old dog anyway, but I'd sure rather lost him another way than to worms.
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ivomec
May 8, 2007 8:34:03 GMT -5
Post by Bunnyseeker on May 8, 2007 8:34:03 GMT -5
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